Subject	Unless something has changed, no head units get close to
Posted by	LJZTT on February 26, 2015 at 10:45 PM
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In Reply To	I respectfully disagree. It has nothing to do with a lack posted by evan_aggie on February 26, 2015 at 03:32 PM
Message	50 watts per channel, those are PEAK ratings. The speaker sees a small fraction of that wattage most the time. Or at least that's how it always used to be. Hooking up an amp to your normal speakers makes sound quality improve by leaps and bounds. It isn't even close. I installed a 200W (4x50W) amplifier into a non-premium OEM Ford audio system way back in the day. It had 5x7s in the rear and something like 4 or 5" speakers up front. The difference was mindblowing. "We pretended to work, and they pretended to pay us." --Mikhail Khodorkovsky "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." --Winston Churchill "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." --Benjamin Franklin "Government is not reason. It is not eloquent. It is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." "The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury." --George Washington END THE FED ....learn why, in 42 minutes Full Pardon for PFC Bradley Manning
Follow Ups	Opinion(s) : Bose vs 3rd Party Brackets + Speakers? - evan_aggie 13:01:34 02/26/15 When i first got the car i swaped the old blown bose - kickerzx 13:06:44 02/26/15 ^I put my Infinity speakers in stock enclosures - -Grimm- 13:13:25 02/26/15 2nd. No need to buy speaker enclosures. I just modified - Haasz32 20:02:57 02/27/15 ditto. threw in trash and regretted it... (n/m) - evan_aggie 13:37:22 02/26/15 Ouch. I keep anything that isn't a worn out part or broken - davidztt 14:16:15 02/26/15 Zmaxsystems - BlackholeZ 14:05:12 02/26/15 Yeah, rub it in... (n/m) - kickerzx 14:06:12 02/26/15 This guy has a set on ebay - BlackholeZ 13:02:44 02/27/15 That's Zmax (n/m) - BoneZ (MD) 12:51:05 03/01/15 are you running the speakers off the HU or through an amp? (n/m) - vorpalZ 14:15:39 02/26/15 From a HU. Think 22 RMS, 4 x 50 as normal. (n/m) - evan_aggie 14:41:07 02/26/15 there's your problem. Forget the ratings on the unit - vorpalZ 15:12:48 02/26/15 I respectfully disagree. It has nothing to do with a lack - evan_aggie 15:32:54 02/26/15 nope. Done exactly what you have done. On 2 Z's - vorpalZ 15:40:27 02/26/15 Honestly, there is a greater chance that I flipped - evan_aggie 15:49:10 02/26/15 That would affect sound quality for sure - BigTDogg (MA) 16:14:13 02/26/15 you could be hard of hearing too - LJZTT 22:48:12 02/26/15 Not all speakers work well in an "open baffel" enviroment. - kickerzx 11:17:12 02/27/15 I understand that, I'm just joshing Evan (n/m) - LJZTT 12:45:06 02/27/15 ah you kids.... (n/m) - kickerzx 12:47:13 02/27/15 Power is a major factor, along with the cleanliness of the - BigTDogg (MA) 15:42:27 02/26/15 I did 6-1/2 Mb Quarts all the way around - Davez 20:53:00 02/26/15 Unless something has changed, no head units get close to - LJZTT 22:45:15 02/26/15 22 RMS. (n/m) - evan_aggie 23:29:22 02/26/15 MB Quart 6.5's in Bose enclosures, F&R. (n/m) - ttz'in (norcal) 14:35:07 02/26/15 ... with amps driving them (n/m) - vorpalZ 15:15:08 02/26/15 What you're describing is what is commonly done in most door - BigTDogg (MA) 16:11:21 02/26/15 Well, the front sound better than the rear. - evan_aggie 16:15:49 02/26/15 That's because they're not doing anything. Reload those - BigTDogg (MA) 16:27:27 02/26/15 Who is this "ZMax" fellow everyone keeps talking - ZXRider 16:46:10 02/26/15 I think he's done, website is dead. - BigTDogg (MA) 16:49:11 02/26/15 Thanks Tony. (n/m) - ZXRider 16:52:01 02/26/15 That's a bummer - BlackholeZ 00:02:15 02/27/15 For SQ competitions, it's a great idea. At least in old - BigTDogg (MA) 22:47:40 03/01/15 All you CAD savvy types, a 3d printer would pay for itself - LJZTT 22:38:47 02/26/15 Ehh, most 3d printed plastics are rather soft - BlackholeZ 00:06:32 02/27/15 Was thinking the ones that use laser sintering (n/m) - LJZTT 02:58:58 02/27/15 Yeah those would be more capable, but way more expensive. (n/m) - BlackholeZ 13:00:22 02/27/15 Prices are falling precipitously and only going to go down - LJZTT 15:43:23 02/27/15 You can't touch a laser cintered machine for uner 10k. - ni[X]it 14:23:22 02/28/15 nm, I was thinking the formlab machine was laser sintering (n/m) - LJZTT 17:59:39 02/28/15 Buddy at work just got one for $4k new. - Ted (92TT) 18:49:49 02/28/15 Weak? A few years ago we worked with a pretty large - black300zx 06:46:38 03/03/15 There are actually many materials that would work well for - black300zx 07:04:14 02/27/15 Re: Not sure how capable it is, but Dremel sells one for $1k - bartz32tt 09:21:40 02/27/15 Definitely some of the higher end processes would work - BlackholeZ 12:59:01 02/27/15 Re: a 3d printer would pay for itself - ni[X]it 12:47:29 02/27/15 Comparison chart for different processes: - BoneZ (MD) 12:34:24 03/01/15 I could design one up, not as easy as making some TE-37s :) - BigTDogg (MA) 22:55:40 03/01/15 When I finally get around to replacing everything - spicyZ 08:08:23 02/27/15 This post emphasizes the point the closest... - The Sixth 11:29:35 02/27/15 Speaker Door Baffles are an option. - ZonaZ 18:16:47 02/26/15 This is exactly what I've spent my winter months doing... - nb623107 18:25:58 02/26/15 That was one of my winter projects as well - SammybTT(TN) 21:57:02 02/26/15 Re: That was one of my winter projects as well - nb623107 22:09:04 02/26/15 How is the sound deadening working out? - CameronSF 11:33:27 02/27/15 i don't have the MFG of the sound deadening with me but - SammybTT(TN) 21:13:31 02/27/15 I like the deadening... How much difference did it make? - ZXoltan 11:35:22 02/27/15 Not a ton. It helps, but you need to do under the seats and - evan_aggie 13:59:14 02/27/15 my first sound/heat deadening was for the transmission - SammybTT(TN) 21:22:08 02/27/15 To reduce road noise, you need mass loaded vinyl - BigTDogg (MA) 16:06:41 03/02/15 I had a spare housing lying around- yours free if I can find - ZXoltan 19:40:39 02/26/15 when Bose designed those enclosures there goal was to have - NUTTZ(EPTmotorsports) 09:11:21 02/27/15 Port Tune your Bose Enclosures, Use 4" Drivers and Amp - flashstar 12:48:08 02/27/15 *I Mean Without a Separate Subwoofer (n/m) - flashstar 12:49:45 02/27/15 ZMax does have an ego bigger than most could imagine - BigTDogg (MA) 15:31:50 03/02/15 I fit 8" subs with custom MDF brackets - zromtech 22:58:01 02/27/15 Seems like a lot of work just to get "decent" ... - ZXoltan 08:57:19 02/28/15 Re: Seems like a lot of work just to get "decent" ... - zromtech 13:10:52 02/28/15 Nice - I ran 8" mids and HLCDs in my old 2+2 for a while - black300zx 12:43:29 03/01/15 Re: I fit 8" subs with custom MDF brackets (n/m) - NytWolf 10:10:24 03/02/15
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